Socratic Seminar

On Friday we had the Socratic seminar in class discussing surveillance, 1984 etc. Everyone shared their own personal thoughts and unfortunately I didn't. Not that I had nothing to say but as many of you know I'm very shy and also a lot that i wanted to discuss was already being shared. So I'm sorry i let you down Ms. Fletcher. I loved being able to hear my classmates thoughts and i agreed what many of you were saying. One thing i wanted to share was my thought towards number 4. Number 4 was "Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until they have rebelled they cannot become conscious." This quote at first i found it to be very profound and it took me a while to fully understand. i had a little help towards its meaning inside the book On page 60 VII, first paragraph "Rebellion meant a look in the eyes, an inflection of the voice; at the most, an occasional whispered word. But the proles, if only they could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need to conspire. They needed only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse shaking off flies. If they chose they could blow the Party to pieces tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it." So this paragraph is saying how rebellion to them was to have your own mind set and self control. To be capable of having power over yourself. And if only the proles realized how they are being oppressed by the parties and if once they realize that they would be able to destroy the parties in any instant. The quote "Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until they have rebelled they cannot become conscious" to me from the paragraph above means that the proles will never rebel until they realize that they are being oppressed by the Party and the second part of the quote means once they become conscious (realize they are being oppressed by the party) and the party is overthrown, it will still be a mystery to them about how life was before the revolution because of all the changes the Party made about Past since all the historic was false information. This was my conclusion towards the quote since it was a bit difficult to understand. it made me rethink the whole situation and the true meaning towards it but what do you guys think? what are some other conclusions you may have?